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Fic Rec : from Lost Luggage

I wandered on to the Lost Luggage website, and found the story "Nothing but Flowers". It's extraordinary. I give it the highest recommendation.   It feels like a bitter but satisfying truth showing through from behind a scrim of pretty elisions. 

If you're an exclusive Doctor/Rose shipper, you probably won't like it at all.

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katesutton
Jun. 10th, 2007 05:11 pm (UTC)
Um. Not sure how I ended up here? Friend of a friend or something, probably. It was a great piece of work, but I didn't really like it. And although I *am* very invested in Doctor/Rose, it's more that I don't see the Doctor as the author does.

There is certainly a lot of darkness to his character. I don't question that. But. The idea that he is THAT capable of self- and other- deception is not something I see in him. I don't think he was playing a part in season one and two because Rose wanted him to or because it fed his ego.He was happy. And he really is capable of that kind of happiness with a human. He's a person, not just a myth. The end of Family of Blood demonstrates that he recognizes that potential in himself.
np_complete
Jun. 11th, 2007 01:10 am (UTC)
Nice to "meet" you, however you ended up here. Your name looks familiar. Do you post a lot of comments? Write fanfiction?

I didn't find the story pleasant, I wouldn't have said. I said that Doctor/Rose shippers wouldn't like it simply because of the sex with Martha. But I think the Doctor's relationship with Rose is a big part of the underpinning of the episode. It makes sense that, knowing that an Earth-style domestic life with children was off the table and that his lifetime--and apparent youth--would far exceed Rose's, that he wouldn't think of the relationship as a romance. And it makes sense that in his self-loathing he would consider never clarifying that to have been wrong, and the relationship itself to have been a mistake. But, as he says, "She thought that meant I was 'serious' about her, and I suppose I was in my own way ...." He's certainly acting as if it was a very significant, intimate relationship to him, even if -- as it apparently was -- it was unconsummated. Martha repeatedly refers to him as a recent widower. And you can even interpret the sex as being that fairly well-known phenomenon where the bereaved seek out sexual contact, sometimes with unlikely people.

I see pain and self-loathing in him in this story, primarily. I didn't come away with the idea that he had been deliberately leading Rose on. (It may be that I didn't read closely enough.) What struck me as being persuasive and real was that he had had misgivings and mixed feelings and mixed motives all along. Were he anyone else, I'd say that made him believably human.

Thanks for commenting!
katesutton
Jun. 11th, 2007 01:57 am (UTC)
Hm. I don't comment that frequently on comms or write fanfic. Maybe you're thinking of kateorman, who is a DW novelist and fan?

Oh, it's possible I'm overreacting. There's a sizeable portion of the lj fandom that believes the Doctor was playing a role to satisfy Rose, instead of actually feeling something for her. That annoys me on Rose's behalf and also on behalf of the story, since I don't think that's what was being told at all. So I tend to view fanfiction that suggests that attitude with a jaundiced eye.

On the other hand, I do think he had his misgivings, mostly concerning his age and the fact that he'd lose her in such a short time. I'm fairly sure things never went anywhere, although RTD threw in some definite wiggle room in the end to make fans crazy.

Mostly, my reaction to the story is about clashing world-views, I suppose. I don't see Rose as wanting him to settle down. And I honestly don't think the Martha we have right now is capable of being so decided with him. I thought she might have been after Smith and Jones, but not any longer. It was well done, though.
np_complete
Jun. 11th, 2007 02:43 am (UTC)
There's a sizeable portion of the lj fandom that believes the Doctor was playing a role to satisfy Rose, instead of actually feeling something for her. That annoys me on Rose's behalf and also on behalf of the story, since I don't think that's what was being told at all.

Well that shows you how much I get around. I guess I stay mostly with a group of T&C authors. I agree with you, I don't think the Doctor was acting a part to satisfy Rose. What would have been the point? What would he have been getting out of it?

I don't see Rose as wanting him to settle down.

Yeah, actually, I thought she had more sense than that. Ten was more open to domesticity than Nine was, but it was still all about the adventures. He did say "You can spend the rest of your life with me ..." but I always interpreted that as part of a hypothetical statement.
magslhalliday
Jul. 8th, 2007 03:25 pm (UTC)
Interesting discussion: feel free to leave comments on the site itself - that's why the commenting function is there!
np_complete
Jul. 8th, 2007 05:49 pm (UTC)
But I did! Right after the story.

Good site. I'll be revisiting it.
magslhalliday
Jul. 8th, 2007 06:04 pm (UTC)
Ah, but your reader here didn't! I've got to puff things up, you know! ;)
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