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So, where's everybody hanging out now?

Is it Dreamwidth? Tumblr? Twitter?

Someplace else?

I miss my friends. I have had a rough couple of weeks (which have been too tumultuous to even talk about) and I just miss the feeling that people I like are out there. Living their lives. Reading their books. Having a good time.

Livejournal is empty and echo-y.

So if you're out there, call up. So I know you're all right. So I know we're both all right.

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wickedgillie
Jun. 21st, 2013 01:38 am (UTC)
I'm here.

And I know you're not there, but I'm pretty much on FB more of the day than I'm not.

I'll try to do better posting here. I haz a tumblr, but I never remember to post there, or even read other people's stuff.
np_complete
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:34 pm (UTC)
*hugs*

Thank you for being here. I was in a bad place when I posted. I'm better now.

*hugs*
wickedgillie
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:45 pm (UTC)
I know that bad place well. I visit often.

np_complete
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:52 pm (UTC)
I need to write you a note about everything that's been going on. It was kind of hard.
platypus
Jun. 21st, 2013 01:42 am (UTC)
I see lots of activity on Twitter and Tumblr. Tumblr's a lousy place to have a conversation, but it is a nice way to see pretty things and a little bit of commentary. But Twitter's where most of the talking happens. I miss long-form writing like here (and presumably Dreamwidth -- I only follow a few people there but it doesn't seem any busier than LJ).
np_complete
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:36 pm (UTC)
Yes, I see a lot of folks on Twitter these days. But I do miss the long-form writing. I miss people reflecting on things.

Thank you for responding to my post last week. I was in a bad place when I posted, but I'm better now.

*hugs*? *hugs*.
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np_complete
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:37 pm (UTC)
I've always been more about words than pictures, though -- I miss the long form post.

I still plan to be here, on LJ. But it's been nice getting to know folks on Twitter.

Thanks for responding. I appreciate it.

earlgreytea68
Jun. 21st, 2013 02:32 am (UTC)
::hugs:: I don't know where we are. All over, I suppose? Scattered like the wind?
np_complete
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:40 pm (UTC)
I don't know where we are. All over, I suppose? Scattered like the wind?

Yes, it seems so. I am glad you still have a public presence, though, and that you're still in fandom. And I'm enjoying your author blog.
earlgreytea68
Jul. 13th, 2013 02:47 am (UTC)
Awww, that is so very sweet of you to say!
np_complete
Jul. 22nd, 2013 11:01 pm (UTC)
Well, it's quite true. I'm very glad you're still in fandom. I enjoy your fic and your occasional commentary very much. And I also enjoy your author blog and your public persona. There's something very Jazz Age about your style, I think, with your fondness for Pimms and champagne and clever conversation.
earlgreytea68
Aug. 3rd, 2013 03:06 am (UTC)
Awww, I'm blushing! This is one of my favorite things anyone has ever said about me!!
karenor
Jun. 21st, 2013 05:47 am (UTC)
I know, it sucks. And yet I can barely make myself post. I will only check Lj like 2-3 times a day instead of that many an hour. Because it's quiet, and when I do post, not much happens anyway. Almost everyone I care to talk to is on twitter, but it is true that the conversation just isn't the same.

I'm on tumblr a lot, but really all that's for is pretty stuff. I don't use it as a blog, really.
np_complete
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:46 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the conversation just isn't the same. It's nice, it's a bit like being at a party or at lunch with a crowd, but it's not the same.

What was giving me pain about the death of LJ was that I'd posted a couple of things that two or three years ago would have gotten a lot of replies ... but no one replied, and I doubt anybody I know read it. That made me sad.

Thanks for responding to my plea for communication (wry <g>). Sometimes, particularly in the evening, I feel like I'm at a party, but nobody can see me.

I know there have to be people in this city who share my interests and aren't grueling to talk to or borderline mentally ill, but they are damned hard to find, and I don't know where to find them.

I went to a support group meeting yesterday morning. It helped.

Edited at 2013-06-30 05:46 pm (UTC)
karenor
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:55 pm (UTC)
I do read everything. But I don't reply enough. In the old days, it wouldn't have mattered because there would be a gaggle of others offering support. It's especially sad because lj aways existed outside of the mainstream. Until it was featured in The Social Network, most people had never heard of it. But with other, shinier, quicker platforms, and the Lj owners themselves ruining stuff, I guess the death was inevitable.

I don't write much because I'm not on a computer much. I Lj primarily from my phone. And typing a lot is a chore.

But I'm feeling that loss of kinship keenly as well. My everyday, local friends don't GET me a lot of the time. And a large portion of my life isn't shared with them. The people that DO get me are far away, and are mostly only communicated with in 140 characters or less.

Basically, *HUGS*
np_complete
Jul. 2nd, 2013 12:12 am (UTC)
But I'm feeling that loss of kinship keenly as well. My everyday, local friends don't GET me a lot of the time. And a large portion of my life isn't shared with them. The people that DO get me are far away, and are mostly only communicated with in 140 characters or less.

YES. SO MUCH THIS.

It's not just that I want support when I'm down: I can shout and people do respond (as witness this post). It's the stuff I think of that I think might be funny or the ideas I have that I think people might be interested in. There's no one to tell.

Basically, *HUGS*

*HUGS* back. Thank you!
sensiblecat
Jun. 21st, 2013 08:04 am (UTC)
I'm too old for Tumblr. Never did like Facebook. I tweet from time to time. When I post anything these days, it's generally to Miranda's Island, my Wordpress blog. For me, LJ was all about Doctor Who at a particular time - 2006 until (roughly) the end of the RTD years, and I confess that those days are gone - I drop by to see if anybody is giving Moffatt a hard time, to be honest.

My favourite DW writers have almost all migrated to other fandoms. I can't get excited enough about Sherlock to write any fic or read very much of it, though I enjoy it on TV. I think there comes a time when you have to accept that things change and people move on. There's always going to be some sadness connected with that, if you enjoyed the experience of hanging out together.

I'm sorry you're going through it, though. Life is tough for so many people these days, isn't it? That in no way trivialises the toughness of individual lives, I should add. RIght now I'm laid up with a torn ligament, but I find that being online too much makes me more frustrated and depressed, so instead I'm knitting a lot (just got into Fair Isle) and catching up with the kids, who are both home from college for the summer right now. Also we are recataloguing the library stock at work. I'm not up to going in myself, but I send them in to help out and it's slowly getting done. I keep looking at the garden and wishing I could get stuck into it, but if I'm foolish now I might never be able to do any serious hiking again, so I just have to sit and watch the weeds grow. All things must pass, both bad and good.

(Hugs) Ruth
np_complete
Jul. 2nd, 2013 03:46 am (UTC)
I follow Miranda's Island. As I've said many times, I enjoy your thoughtful writing.

Yes, you're right: things change, people move on. I'm happy for them: delighted at the new babies, new novels, new degrees, and so on. It's been wonderful, seeing all that happen to people I care about.

All things must pass, both bad and good.

whochick said something like that to me, years ago, and I've been trying to bear it in mind.

It was a great experience to have, to be part of LJ at that time, and I'm glad I had it.
whochick
Jul. 2nd, 2013 04:02 am (UTC)
Hey there, friend :) I remember mentioning that to you, and it's been useful advice for me these past few years.

I agree with your analysis - these previously well frequented halls echo with silence. It's sad in a way, but that's the nature of the internet. So fickle. Friends need not be, however. I'm here. I'd love to keep in touch on LJ or off. xoxo
np_complete
Jul. 2nd, 2013 06:45 pm (UTC)
Funny, isn't it, how sometimes when things are good, you think that's just the way things are now? It doesn't occur to you that this might be an anomaly, a high point, something you will one day look back on. Because it doesn't occur to you that it will change.

I'm being awfully sentimental about Livejournal. But I'm also doing mental preparation for writing a memoir (of my time in England in the 80s), so "the passage of time" is much on my mind.

I still want to finish my novella, still want to write, still have a few Who stories backed up that I want to finish up. Just for the sake of finishing.

I'd like to keep in touch, too. xoxo

Edited at 2013-07-02 06:45 pm (UTC)
fid_gin
Jun. 21st, 2013 04:06 pm (UTC)
I'm around, lurking cause I'm too busy to post :)
np_complete
Jun. 30th, 2013 05:48 pm (UTC)
It's nice to see you! I've enjoyed the posts you've been able to find time for! It's been great watching Finn grow!

Thanks for looking in. I was in a bad place when I posted, but I'm better now.
ladymercury_10
Jun. 21st, 2013 09:02 pm (UTC)
I'm definitely still on LJ. I'm also on Tumblr and the AO3 (and nominally on Dreamwidth, but I don't hang out there much). I just haven't been posting lately because I have like 8 cousins in the house at the moment.
np_complete
Jul. 2nd, 2013 03:47 am (UTC)
Thank you! It's good to know you're still around! Hope the cousins visiting was fun!
ladymercury_10
Jul. 2nd, 2013 05:50 am (UTC)
Thank you, it has been a bit wild but definitely good. :)
glory_jean
Jul. 2nd, 2013 06:38 am (UTC)
Well, you know I still post on LJ via dreamwidth, but I don't seem to read my F-list as much. I probably should purge some comms and feeds on both, because they fill up it with things I'm not interested in these days, but without them it would be so sad and quiet.

I suppose I should just track all personal LJ's and hope that LJ emails me. Otherwise, I forget get caught up elsewhere.

I have RL friends posting news articles on FB that I get caught up in. I do "read" (aka scroll through) tumblr, but I don't really like it. I don't use my twitter expect to stalk news stories you can't find elsewhere, but that only happens every few months or so.

I really don't understand the passion for twitter and tumblr. They are such an mess and seem the opposite of connecting with people in most ways.
np_complete
Jul. 2nd, 2013 06:48 pm (UTC)
I don't understand tumblr, but I sort of get twitter. When I think of something funny, I post on twitter. And I get to keep some fleeting contact with people that otherwise I'd have to be e-penpals with, communicating by exchange of email.

I miss when we all had common interests, and people meta'd in depth, but I've learned about things I otherwise would never have, through the divergent interests of my former DW-watching buddies. Sherlock, for example. I probably wouldn't have bothered with Sherlock or with Elementary if it hadn't been for people I knew raving about it. Think of all I'd have missed!
sensiblecat
Jul. 4th, 2013 09:59 am (UTC)
Fandom is a funny old thing. I never took any part in it before Doomsday, and probably won't again. But it gave me a lot of pleasure living in my little Ten world for a while. I think the people I hung out with were very much part of the RTD era on DW, and that's fading away into the distance now. However, we become fans because we have certain things in common, a particular outlook on life, and often quite similar jobs (education professions, librarians and academics seem well represented in DW fandom), so maybe some of those connections will endure.

MI is more of my public face, more reflective, and less emotional. But it's still me, and I'm glad when you drop in!
np_complete
Jul. 6th, 2013 05:24 pm (UTC)
I never took any part in it before Doomsday, and probably won't again. But it gave me a lot of pleasure living in my little Ten world for a while.

Me, too. I hung around the fringes of X-Files fandom for literally years, but never did more than post comments on people's fics. DW was the first fandom I actually spoke up in and joined.

I think the people I hung out with were very much part of the RTD era on DW, and that's fading away into the distance now. However, we become fans because we have certain things in common, a particular outlook on life, and often quite similar jobs (education professions, librarians and academics seem well represented in DW fandom), so maybe some of those connections will endure.

I hope so. I think perhaps some of them will. I remain friends with some folks on Twitter and hope that won't change.

MI is more of my public face, more reflective, and less emotional. But it's still me, and I'm glad when you drop in!


Well, I enjoy the thoughtfulness, precision, and care of your writing. So I definitely drop in when I see that you've posted!

Thanks for responding to the original post, here. I was having a particularly bad time in private life at that time, and was feeling particularly lonely. I had some grieving to do and perhaps I was projecting it onto LJ. But it means a lot to me that you read the post and responded. Thank you.
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